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You’ve Never Seen A President ‘So Impervious To Outside Facts’ | Deadline | MSNBC


NICOLLE WALLACE BEGINS RIGHT NOW. NOW.>>>HI, EVERYONE, IT’S 4:00 IN>>>HI, EVERYONE, IT’S 4:00 IN NEW YORK. NEW YORK. IF ONLY DONALD TRUMP TACKLED GUN IF ONLY DONALD TRUMP TACKLED GUN VIOLENCE, PEDIATRIC CANCER IN VIOLENCE, PEDIATRIC CANCER IN THE WAY HE’S SPENT PROVING HE THE WAY HE’S SPENT PROVING HE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG THAT WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG THAT HURRICANE DORIAN WAS IN THE PATH HURRICANE DORIAN WAS IN THE PATH OF ALABAMA. OF ALABAMA. NOAA NOAA NOAA CORRECTED THE PRESIDENT NOAA CORRECTED THE PRESIDENT VEHEMENTLY. VEHEMENTLY. AND TODAY DONALD TRUMP IS STILL AND TODAY DONALD TRUMP IS STILL AT IT. AT IT. HIS ALABAMA TWEET COUNT TODAY HIS ALABAMA TWEET COUNT TODAY STANDS AT FOUR BUT THOSE NUMBERS STANDS AT FOUR BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE EXPECTED TO RIGHT AS DONALD ARE EXPECTED TO RIGHT AS DONALD TRUMP SURVEYS THE DAMAGE TO HIS TRUMP SURVEYS THE DAMAGE TO HIS REPUTATION, WHICH NOW INCLUDES REPUTATION, WHICH NOW INCLUDES SHARING A FALSE WEATHER FORECAST SHARING A FALSE WEATHER FORECAST AND DOUBLING DOWN ON IT. AND DOUBLING DOWN ON IT. “THE NEW YORK TIMES” DESCRIBES “THE NEW YORK TIMES” DESCRIBES THIS MORNING’S DEVELOPMENTS THIS THIS MORNING’S DEVELOPMENTS THIS WAY, QUOTE, BY THURSDAY MORNING WAY, QUOTE, BY THURSDAY MORNING IT WAS CLEAR THAT MR. TRUMP HAD IT WAS CLEAR THAT MR. TRUMP HAD NO INTENTION OF CONCEDING THAT NO INTENTION OF CONCEDING THAT HE WAS WRONG ABOUT ALABAMA. HE WAS WRONG ABOUT ALABAMA. AT A TWEET AT 6:309 A.M., THE AT A TWEET AT 6:309 A.M., THE PRESIDENT ACCUSED OF MEDIA OF PRESIDENT ACCUSED OF MEDIA OF NOT GIVING THE HURRICANE THE NOT GIVING THE HURRICANE THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES. ATTENTION IT DESERVES. AND THEY SAID THE PRESIDENT’S IN AND THEY SAID THE PRESIDENT’S IN HARM’S WAY AND THE PRESIDENT IS HARM’S WAY AND THE PRESIDENT IS FOCUSED ON COVERING UP A MISTAKE FOCUSED ON COVERING UP A MISTAKE HE MADE. HE MADE. THIS IS PART OF A PATTERN OF TWO THIS IS PART OF A PATTERN OF TWO TRUMP PHENOMENONS, LYING AND TRUMP PHENOMENONS, LYING AND DOUBLING DOWN. DOUBLING DOWN. “THE WASHINGTON POST” IS OUT “THE WASHINGTON POST” IS OUT WITH A PIECE CHRONICLING OTHER WITH A PIECE CHRONICLING OTHER LOW POINTS IN THE TRUMP LOW POINTS IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S WAR ON TRUTH T ADMINISTRATION’S WAR ON TRUTH T BEGAN ON DAY ONE OF HIS BEGAN ON DAY ONE OF HIS PRESIDENCY WHEN TRUMP SENT HIS PRESIDENCY WHEN TRUMP SENT HIS PRESS SECRETARY OUT TO DEFEND PRESS SECRETARY OUT TO DEFEND HIS CLAIMS ABOUT THE INAUGURAL HIS CLAIMS ABOUT THE INAUGURAL CROWD SIZE. CROWD SIZE.>>THIS WAS THE LARGEST AUDIENCE>>THIS WAS THE LARGEST AUDIENCE TO EVER WITNESS AN INAUGURATION TO EVER WITNESS AN INAUGURATION PERIOD, BOTH IN PERSON AND PERIOD, BOTH IN PERSON AND AROUND THE GLOBE. AROUND THE GLOBE.>>THAT WAS HOW TRUMP’S>>THAT WAS HOW TRUMP’S POST-TRUTH PRESIDENCY STARTED POST-TRUTH PRESIDENCY STARTED AND THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD AND THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD LATER GO ON TO TWEET DOCTORED LATER GO ON TO TWEET DOCTORED VIDEO IN ORDER TO SUPPORT VIDEO IN ORDER TO SUPPORT TRUMP’S PUNISHMENT OF TRUMP’S PUNISHMENT OF JOURNALISTS AND CONVENE A JOURNALISTS AND CONVENE A COMMISSION TO BACK UP TRUMP’S COMMISSION TO BACK UP TRUMP’S BASELESS CLAIMS THAT WIDESPREAD BASELESS CLAIMS THAT WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD OF THE 2016 ELECTION VOTER FRAUD OF THE 2016 ELECTION COST HIM THE POPULAR VOTE. COST HIM THE POPULAR VOTE. THIS CRISIS AFFORDED ANOTHER THIS CRISIS AFFORDED ANOTHER CONVERSATION AND IT’S ONE THAT CONVERSATION AND IT’S ONE THAT HAS BEEN WHISPERED IN A FEW RARE HAS BEEN WHISPERED IN A FEW RARE INSTANCES. INSTANCES.>>THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT YET –>>THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT YET — HAS NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO HAS NOT YET BEEN ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THE STABILITY NOR DEMONSTRATE THE STABILITY NOR SOME OF THE COMPETENCE HE NEEDS SOME OF THE COMPETENCE HE NEEDS TO DEMONSTRATE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. TO DEMONSTRATE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.>>RECKLESS, OUTRAGEOUS AND>>RECKLESS, OUTRAGEOUS AND UNDIGNIFIED BEHAVIOR HAS BECOME UNDIGNIFIED BEHAVIOR HAS BECOME EXCUSED AND COUNT NANCE OF EXCUSED AND COUNT NANCE OF TELLING IT LIKE IT IS WHEN IT’S TELLING IT LIKE IT IS WHEN IT’S JUST ACTUALLY RECKLESS, JUST ACTUALLY RECKLESS, OUTRAGEOUS AND UNDIGNIFIED. OUTRAGEOUS AND UNDIGNIFIED. AND WHEN SUCH BEHAVIOR EMANATES AND WHEN SUCH BEHAVIOR EMANATES FROM THE TOP OF OUR GOVERNMENT, FROM THE TOP OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IT IS SOMETHING ELSE, IT IS IT IS SOMETHING ELSE, IT IS DANGEROUS TO A DEMOCRACY. DANGEROUS TO A DEMOCRACY.>>DANGEROUS TO A DEMOCRACY IS>>DANGEROUS TO A DEMOCRACY IS WHERE WE START TODAY WITH SOME WHERE WE START TODAY WITH SOME OF OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS AND OF OUR FAVORITE REPORTERS AND FRIENDS. FRIENDS. FORMER DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN FORMER DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN DONNA EDWARDS JOINS US. DONNA EDWARDS JOINS US. FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AT THE FBI, COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AT THE FBI, FRANK FIGLIUZZI IS BACK. FRANK FIGLIUZZI IS BACK. WITH US FROM “THE NEW YORK WITH US FROM “THE NEW YORK TIMES” CHIEF WHITE HOUSE TIMES” CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT PETER BAKER. CORRESPONDENT PETER BAKER. AT THE TAME RICK STENGEL, FORMER AT THE TAME RICK STENGEL, FORMER MANAGING EDITOR OF “TIME” MACK MANAGING EDITOR OF “TIME” MACK SCENE WHO WORKED WITH MACHINE’S SCENE WHO WORKED WITH MACHINE’S STATE DEPARTMENT. STATE DEPARTMENT. PLUS, EXECUTIVE EDITOR FROM PLUS, EXECUTIVE EDITOR FROM BLOOM OPINION, TIM O’BRIEN. BLOOM OPINION, TIM O’BRIEN. TIM, I WILL START WITH YOU TIM, I WILL START WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN CHRONICLING DONALD TRUMP THE CHRONICLING DONALD TRUMP THE LIAR LONGER THAN ALL OF US LIAR LONGER THAN ALL OF US TOGETHER. TOGETHER. BUT AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED IN THE BUT AS SOMEONE WHO WORKED IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND STATE WHITE HOUSE AND STATE DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE STILL DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE STILL MOMENTS LIKE THE PRESIDENT MOMENTS LIKE THE PRESIDENT HOLDING UP A DOCTORED IMAGE OF A HOLDING UP A DOCTORED IMAGE OF A STORM PATH THAT CONTINUE TO STORM PATH THAT CONTINUE TO RATTLE AND SHAKE WHAT’S LEFT OF RATTLE AND SHAKE WHAT’S LEFT OF OUR NORMS. OUR NORMS.>>YOU KNOW, I DON’T THINK IT’S>>YOU KNOW, I DON’T THINK IT’S JUST ABOUT LYING. JUST ABOUT LYING. LYING IS AN OUTCOME OF OTHER LYING IS AN OUTCOME OF OTHER THINGS THAT TROUBLE THE THINGS THAT TROUBLE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. FOR ALL OF HIS BLUSTERS, HE’S A FOR ALL OF HIS BLUSTERS, HE’S A DEEPLY INSECURE MAN AND THERE DEEPLY INSECURE MAN AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT TRIGGER ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT TRIGGER HIM AROUND THAT. HIM AROUND THAT. HIS WEALTH, HIS INTELLIGENCE AND HIS WEALTH, HIS INTELLIGENCE AND ON AND ON. ON AND ON. AND WHAT HAPPENED I THINK WITH AND WHAT HAPPENED I THINK WITH ALABAMA IS HE MADE A MISTAKE ALABAMA IS HE MADE A MISTAKE THAT ANOTHER PERSON MIGHT HAVE THAT ANOTHER PERSON MIGHT HAVE MADE, AND HAD HE BEEN SECURE, MADE, AND HAD HE BEEN SECURE, HAD HE ABOUT CONFIDENT IN WHO HE HAD HE ABOUT CONFIDENT IN WHO HE IS, HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY SAID, IS, HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY SAID, I’M SORRY, I WISH WELL FOR THE I’M SORRY, I WISH WELL FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALABAMA. PEOPLE OF ALABAMA. LET’S MOVE ON. LET’S MOVE ON. I MADE A MISTAKE. I MADE A MISTAKE. THEN ABC CALLED HIM OUT ON IT THEN ABC CALLED HIM OUT ON IT AND HE DOUBLED DOWN. AND HE DOUBLED DOWN. P THEN HE GOT IN THIS TUG OF P THEN HE GOT IN THIS TUG OF WAR, ON A WHOLE RANGE OF WAR, ON A WHOLE RANGE OF SUBJECTS, FOR 70 OF THE 73 YEARS SUBJECTS, FOR 70 OF THE 73 YEARS OF HIS LIFE, YOU’RE RIGHT OF I’M OF HIS LIFE, YOU’RE RIGHT OF I’M YOU’RE WRONG. YOU’RE WRONG. HE CAN’T DO THAT BECAUSE INSIDE HE CAN’T DO THAT BECAUSE INSIDE OF HIMSELF HE KNOWS HE’S NOT OF HIMSELF HE KNOWS HE’S NOT COMPETENT, HE KNOWS HE’S NOT COMPETENT, HE KNOWS HE’S NOT INFORMED, HE’S AWARE HE’S AN INFORMED, HE’S AWARE HE’S AN IGNORANT PERSON. IGNORANT PERSON. WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW IS HE’S ON WHAT’S HAPPENING NOW IS HE’S ON AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE. AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE. HE’S NEVER OCCUPIED THE HE’S NEVER OCCUPIED THE SPOTLIGHT IN QUITE THIS WAY. SPOTLIGHT IN QUITE THIS WAY. AND EVERYTHING THAT’S LED UP TO AND EVERYTHING THAT’S LED UP TO THIS MOMENT, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT THIS MOMENT, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THE WAY HE’S BEEN THIS BEFORE, THE WAY HE’S BEEN INSULATED IN THE PAST FROM THE INSULATED IN THE PAST FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS OWN CONSEQUENCES OF HIS OWN MISTAKES, FIRST BY WEALTH AND MISTAKES, FIRST BY WEALTH AND THEN CELEBRITY AND NOW THE THEN CELEBRITY AND NOW THE PRESIDENCY. PRESIDENCY. HE’S NEVER HAD TO LEARN HOW TO HE’S NEVER HAD TO LEARN HOW TO ANALYZE HIMSELF AND GROW. ANALYZE HIMSELF AND GROW. INSTEAD WHAT HE DOES IS SIMPLY INSTEAD WHAT HE DOES IS SIMPLY DIGS IN. DIGS IN. I THINK THERE’S BEEN SORT OF A I THINK THERE’S BEEN SORT OF A RANGE OF ISSUES THAT WE’VE SEEN RANGE OF ISSUES THAT WE’VE SEEN ALREADY THAT HE HASN’T LET GO. ALREADY THAT HE HASN’T LET GO. COMEY CAME UP IN THE MIDST OF COMEY CAME UP IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS. ALL OF THIS. I THINK JIM COMEY IS WRONG WHEN I THINK JIM COMEY IS WRONG WHEN HE SAYS IT’S NARCISSISM. HE SAYS IT’S NARCISSISM. I THINK THIS IS MORE ABOUT I THINK THIS IS MORE ABOUT INSECURITY AND A PSYCHOLOGICAL, INSECURITY AND A PSYCHOLOGICAL, TROUBLED PSYCHOLOGY. TROUBLED PSYCHOLOGY.>>AND NOT ONE OF US IS CAPABLE>>AND NOT ONE OF US IS CAPABLE OF DIAGNOSING ANYBODY. OF DIAGNOSING ANYBODY. PETER BAKER, YOUR COLLEAGUE PETER BAKER, YOUR COLLEAGUE ANNIE KARNI WAS ON THIS SHOW ANNIE KARNI WAS ON THIS SHOW YESTERDAY AS THIS STORY WAS YESTERDAY AS THIS STORY WAS BEGINNING TO BREAK OPEN. BEGINNING TO BREAK OPEN. SHE MENTIONED SOME OF THE SMALL SHE MENTIONED SOME OF THE SMALL THINGS HE LIES ABOUT, THE THINGS HE LIES ABOUT, THE PRESIDENT SAYING THAT HE NEVER PRESIDENT SAYING THAT HE NEVER CALLED TIM COOK TIM APPLE WHEN CALLED TIM COOK TIM APPLE WHEN HE HAD DONE EXACTLY THAT ON HE HAD DONE EXACTLY THAT ON TAPE. TAPE. WE LOOKED BACK AT AN INTERVIEW WE LOOKED BACK AT AN INTERVIEW WE DID WITH RICK REILLY, WHO WE DID WITH RICK REILLY, WHO WROTE A BOOK ABOUT TRUMP WHO WROTE A BOOK ABOUT TRUMP WHO LIES AND CHEATS ABOUT GOLF. LIES AND CHEATS ABOUT GOLF. BUT I KNOW FOR YOUR BODY OF BUT I KNOW FOR YOUR BODY OF JOURNALISM, NOT JUST YOUR JOURNALISM, NOT JUST YOUR CURRENT CAPACITY BUT YOU HAVE CURRENT CAPACITY BUT YOU HAVE BEEN IN MOSCOW, YOU COVERED THE BEEN IN MOSCOW, YOU COVERED THE MIDDLE EAST, AND I THINK MORE MIDDLE EAST, AND I THINK MORE ALARMING THAN FALSE STATEMENTS ALARMING THAN FALSE STATEMENTS ABOUT THE WEATHER AND SIZE OF ABOUT THE WEATHER AND SIZE OF CROWDS ARE FALSETRUMP’S FALSE CL CROWDS ARE FALSETRUMP’S FALSE CL LIKE MEETING KIM JONG-UN AND LIKE MEETING KIM JONG-UN AND THERE’S NO LONGER, QUOTE, A THERE’S NO LONGER, QUOTE, A NUCLEAR THREAT FROM NORTH KOREA. NUCLEAR THREAT FROM NORTH KOREA. A THREAT THAT DIDN’T AGE WELL A THREAT THAT DIDN’T AGE WELL AFTER NORTH KOREA FIRED OFF A AFTER NORTH KOREA FIRED OFF A SERIES OF MISSILE TESTS JUST IN SERIES OF MISSILE TESTS JUST IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THE LAST FEW MONTHS. CLAIMS TRUMP DISMISSED THEM AS CLAIMS TRUMP DISMISSED THEM AS VERY STANDARD, EVEN AS HIS VERY STANDARD, EVEN AS HIS INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS EXPRESSED INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS EXPRESSED ALARM. ALARM. THERE WAS ALSO THE KILLING OF THERE WAS ALSO THE KILLING OF “THE WASHINGTON POST” REPORTER “THE WASHINGTON POST” REPORTER JAMAL KHASHOGGI. JAMAL KHASHOGGI. TRUMP’S CIA BLAMED SAUDI TRUMP’S CIA BLAMED SAUDI ARABIA’S CROWN PRINCE. ARABIA’S CROWN PRINCE. TRUMP ALLEGEDLY GAVE HIM A PASS. TRUMP ALLEGEDLY GAVE HIM A PASS.>>WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE NOTHING>>WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE NOTHING UNCOVERED. UNCOVERED. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE KING WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE KING FIRMLY DENIED ANY KNOWLEDGE OF FIRMLY DENIED ANY KNOWLEDGE OF IT. IT. HE DIDN’T REALLY KNOW, MAYBE — HE DIDN’T REALLY KNOW, MAYBE — I DON’T WANT TO GET INTO HIS I DON’T WANT TO GET INTO HIS MIND BUT IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE MIND BUT IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE MAYBE THESE COULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE THESE COULD HAVE BEEN ROGUE KILLERS. ROGUE KILLERS. WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS? WE WILL TRY GETTING TO THE WE WILL TRY GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF IT VERY SOON. BOTTOM OF IT VERY SOON. BUT HIS WAS A FLAT DENIAL. BUT HIS WAS A FLAT DENIAL.>>FINALLY, THE BREAK WITH>>FINALLY, THE BREAK WITH REALITY HEARD AROUND THE WORLD, REALITY HEARD AROUND THE WORLD, TRUMP’S ACCEPTANCE OF VLADIMIR TRUMP’S ACCEPTANCE OF VLADIMIR PUTIN’S DENIAL THAT RUSSIAN PUTIN’S DENIAL THAT RUSSIAN INTERFERES IN OUR ELECTION. INTERFERES IN OUR ELECTION.>>THEY SAID THEY THINK IT’S>>THEY SAID THEY THINK IT’S RUSSIA. RUSSIA. I HAVE PRESIDENT PUTIN. I HAVE PRESIDENT PUTIN. HE JUST SAID IT’S NOT RUSSIA. HE JUST SAID IT’S NOT RUSSIA. I WILL SAY THIS, I DON’T SEE ANY I WILL SAY THIS, I DON’T SEE ANY REASON WHY IT WOULD BE. REASON WHY IT WOULD BE. I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN MY I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN MY INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE, BUT I WILL INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT PRESIDENT PUTIN TELL YOU THAT PRESIDENT PUTIN WAS EXTREMELY STRONG AND WAS EXTREMELY STRONG AND POWERFUL IN HIS DENIAL TODAY. POWERFUL IN HIS DENIAL TODAY.>>PETER BAR?>>PETER BAR?>>LOOK, EVERY PRESIDENT TO SOME>>LOOK, EVERY PRESIDENT TO SOME EXTENT CREATES A NARRATIVE FOR EXTENT CREATES A NARRATIVE FOR THEIR CAREER FOR THEIR THEIR CAREER FOR THEIR PRESIDENCY — PRESIDENCY –>>OH, COME ON!>>OH, COME ON!>>NO, LET ME FINISH, WHAT YOU>>NO, LET ME FINISH, WHAT YOU DON’T SEE IS A PRESIDENT WHOSE DON’T SEE IS A PRESIDENT WHOSE NAR TIFB IS SO IMPERVIOUS TO NAR TIFB IS SO IMPERVIOUS TO OUTSIDE FACTS. OUTSIDE FACTS. WHAT DONALD TRUMP DOES IS CREATE WHAT DONALD TRUMP DOES IS CREATE HIS OWN REALITY. HIS OWN REALITY. ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, BEFORE HE ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, BEFORE HE BROKE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID BROKE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE CREATES HIS REALITY HE CREATES HIS REALITY DISTORTION FIELD AROUND HIM. DISTORTION FIELD AROUND HIM. HE BENDS REALITY TO SUIT HIS OWN HE BENDS REALITY TO SUIT HIS OWN NEED, HIS OWN DESIRES, HIS OWN NEED, HIS OWN DESIRES, HIS OWN POINTS OF VIEW. POINTS OF VIEW. IF OTHER PEOPLE SAY ALABAMA IS IF OTHER PEOPLE SAY ALABAMA IS NOT IN THE STORM RANGE AND HE NOT IN THE STORM RANGE AND HE SAID IT IS, IT’S GOING TO BE IN SAID IT IS, IT’S GOING TO BE IN THE STORM RANGE AS LONG AS HE THE STORM RANGE AS LONG AS HE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. HAS ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. YOU PLAYED SEVERAL EXAMPLES YOU PLAYED SEVERAL EXAMPLES WHERE HE’S NOT WILLING TO LISTEN WHERE HE’S NOT WILLING TO LISTEN TO OTHER PEOPLE’S ANALYSIS, TO OTHER PEOPLE’S ANALYSIS, OTHER PEOPLE’S FACTS, OTHER OTHER PEOPLE’S FACTS, OTHER PEOPLE’S INFORMATION BECAUSE PEOPLE’S INFORMATION BECAUSE HE’S ALREADY DECIDED IN HIS OWN HE’S ALREADY DECIDED IN HIS OWN MIND WHAT HE WANTS THE STORY TO MIND WHAT HE WANTS THE STORY TO BE. BE. AND IT’S IMPERVIOUS TO THE SORT AND IT’S IMPERVIOUS TO THE SORT OF OUTSIDE OPINIONS. OF OUTSIDE OPINIONS. VERY RARELY DO YOU SEE HIM EVER VERY RARELY DO YOU SEE HIM EVER BACK OFF. BACK OFF. I WAS STUNNED ABOUT A WEEK OR SO I WAS STUNNED ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO, THE ONLY TIME I COULD AGO, THE ONLY TIME I COULD REMEMBER IN RECENT MONTHS THAT REMEMBER IN RECENT MONTHS THAT WHERE THE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY WHERE THE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY BACKED OFF, HE SAID MELANIA BACKED OFF, HE SAID MELANIA TRUMP KNEW KIM JONG-UN WELL AND TRUMP KNEW KIM JONG-UN WELL AND THOUGHT HIGHLY OF HIM. THOUGHT HIGHLY OF HIM. THE WHITE HOUSE WAS FORCED TO THE WHITE HOUSE WAS FORCED TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING ACTUALLY SHE HASN’T MET HIM. ACTUALLY SHE HASN’T MET HIM. BUT HE FELT SHE KNEW HIM. BUT HE FELT SHE KNEW HIM. THAT WAS HIS STATEMENT. THAT WAS HIS STATEMENT. AND THAT JUSTIFIED HIS AND THAT JUSTIFIED HIS STATEMENT. STATEMENT. AND THAT’S HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THAT’S HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP OPERATES. OPERATES. IF HE FEELS LIKE SOMETHING IS IF HE FEELS LIKE SOMETHING IS TRUE, THEN IT’S TRUE. TRUE, THEN IT’S TRUE. TIM O’BRIEN KNOWS THIS BETTER TIM O’BRIEN KNOWS THIS BETTER THAN ANYBODY. THAN ANYBODY. IN DEPOSITIONS FOR YOUR LAWSUIT IN DEPOSITIONS FOR YOUR LAWSUIT HE SAID HE FELT HIS WORTH WAS HE SAID HE FELT HIS WORTH WAS HIGHER THAN TIM REPORTED IN HIS HIGHER THAN TIM REPORTED IN HIS BOOK AND THE FACT HE FELT THAT BOOK AND THE FACT HE FELT THAT WAY MADE IT SO. WAY MADE IT SO.>>TIM, PETER IS RIGHT.>>TIM, PETER IS RIGHT. LISTEN, I THINK THE VALUE OF LISTEN, I THINK THE VALUE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS IS THE OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS IS THE CAPACITY TO COMPARE TRUMP TO CAPACITY TO COMPARE TRUMP TO THAT WHICH IS NORMAL. THAT WHICH IS NORMAL. BUT I WONDER IF THAT’S THE WRONG BUT I WONDER IF THAT’S THE WRONG EXERCISE WITH TRUMP? EXERCISE WITH TRUMP? I WONDER IF WE SHOULD BE I WONDER IF WE SHOULD BE COMPARING HIM TO OTHER PEOPLE COMPARING HIM TO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DELUSIONAL INSTEAD OF WHO ARE DELUSIONAL INSTEAD OF OTHER PRESIDENTS WHO WERE OTHER PRESIDENTS WHO WERE NORMAL? NORMAL?>>I DON’T THINK YOU CAN COMPARE>>I DON’T THINK YOU CAN COMPARE HIM TO ANOTHER PRESIDENT IN THE HIM TO ANOTHER PRESIDENT IN THE MODERN ERA. MODERN ERA. PEOPLE BROUGHT UP THE LAWSUIT. PEOPLE BROUGHT UP THE LAWSUIT. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS LAWSUIT IS HE SUED ME ON THINGS LAWSUIT IS HE SUED ME ON THINGS I COULD DEMONSTRABLY PROVE TO BE I COULD DEMONSTRABLY PROVE TO BE CORRECT AND THEY WERE. CORRECT AND THEY WERE. IT WASN’T IN HIS STRATEGIC IT WASN’T IN HIS STRATEGIC INTEREST TO SUE A “NEW YORK INTEREST TO SUE A “NEW YORK TIMES” REPORT IRTHATER THAT WOUL TIMES” REPORT IRTHATER THAT WOUL ME FREE REPRESENTATION AND MY ME FREE REPRESENTATION AND MY BOOK PUBLISHER GAVE ME BOOK PUBLISHER GAVE ME REPRESENTATION AS WELL. REPRESENTATION AS WELL.>>YES, WE HAD YOU ON WITH HIM.>>YES, WE HAD YOU ON WITH HIM.>>YES.>>YES. AND LIZ SMITH, A CONGRESSWOMAN AND LIZ SMITH, A CONGRESSWOMAN FROM TEXAS SAID, YOU KNOW HONEY, FROM TEXAS SAID, YOU KNOW HONEY, THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO KNOW THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IS HE’S A ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IS HE’S A 7-YEAR-OLD WHO NEVER GREW OLD. 7-YEAR-OLD WHO NEVER GREW OLD. AND THAT’S A PRETTY GOOD WORKING AND THAT’S A PRETTY GOOD WORKING WAY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE HE’S WAY TO UNDERSTAND WHERE HE’S COMING FROM. COMING FROM. BECAUSE KIDS WHEN THEY GET INTO BECAUSE KIDS WHEN THEY GET INTO A FIGHT DON’T THINK ABOUT WHAT’S A FIGHT DON’T THINK ABOUT WHAT’S GOOD IN THE LONG TERM. GOOD IN THE LONG TERM. HOW SHOULD THEY CONSTRUCTIVELY HOW SHOULD THEY CONSTRUCTIVELY WORK THEIR WAY OUT OF THIS TO WORK THEIR WAY OUT OF THIS TO GET TO A GOOD RESOLUTION? GET TO A GOOD RESOLUTION? WHAT HE THINKS IS THERE’S A WHAT HE THINKS IS THERE’S A THING IN FRONT OF ME NOW, I THING IN FRONT OF ME NOW, I DON’T LIKE IT, I’M GOING TO DON’T LIKE IT, I’M GOING TO STRANGLE IT TO THE GROUND. STRANGLE IT TO THE GROUND. EVEN IF IT’S NOT IN MY EVEN IF IT’S NOT IN MY SELF-INTEREST TO DO THIS. SELF-INTEREST TO DO THIS. THAT’S WHY I KEEP DOUBLING DOWN THAT’S WHY I KEEP DOUBLING DOWN ON THIS BONKERS CLAIMS ABOUT ON THIS BONKERS CLAIMS ABOUT ALABAMA. ALABAMA.>>FRANK FIGLIUZZI, WHAT I KEEP>>FRANK FIGLIUZZI, WHAT I KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE SEE THE THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE SEE THE PRESIDENT WITH HIS HAND ON AN PRESIDENT WITH HIS HAND ON AN IMAGE DOCTORED BY A BLACK IMAGE DOCTORED BY A BLACK SHARPIE IS SO THAT WAS A LIE SHARPIE IS SO THAT WAS A LIE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HELD IT. BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HELD IT. ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HE DOES ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HE DOES ON TAPE ARE LIES THAT WE KNOW ON TAPE ARE LIES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT BECAUSE HE DOES THEM ON ABOUT BECAUSE HE DOES THEM ON TAPE. TAPE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SORT OF WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SORT OF SCOPE OF THE ICEBERG IS SCOPE OF THE ICEBERG IS UNDERWATER? UNDERWATER? WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES? SCENES?>>TO UNDERSTAND HOW DANGEROUS>>TO UNDERSTAND HOW DANGEROUS THIS COULD BECOME, AND MAY HAVE THIS COULD BECOME, AND MAY HAVE ALREADY BECOME, I THINK, ALREADY BECOME, I THINK, NICOLLE, IT’S IMPORTANT TO VIEW NICOLLE, IT’S IMPORTANT TO VIEW THE LIES THROUGH THE PROPER THE LIES THROUGH THE PROPER LENS. LENS. TRUMP IS LYING NOT BECAUSE THE TRUMP IS LYING NOT BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS INCONSISTENT WITH HOW TRUTH IS INCONSISTENT WITH HOW WE VIEW HIM BUT RATHER THE TRUTH WE VIEW HIM BUT RATHER THE TRUTH IS INCONSISTENT WITH HOW HE IS INCONSISTENT WITH HOW HE WANTS TO BE VIEWED AND HOW HE WANTS TO BE VIEWED AND HOW HE WISHES THINGS WERE. WISHES THINGS WERE. SO HE’S MANUFACTURING AN SO HE’S MANUFACTURING AN ILLUSION. ILLUSION. THE ILLUSION ON THE NATIONAL THE ILLUSION ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY SIDE IS SIMPLY THAT WE SECURITY SIDE IS SIMPLY THAT WE HAVE NO SERIOUS ADVERSARIES, HAVE NO SERIOUS ADVERSARIES, EVERYTHING IS FINE, NOTHING TO EVERYTHING IS FINE, NOTHING TO SEE HERE. SEE HERE. I’M THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, I’M THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD, KIND OF A DEMAGOGUE, NOT UNLIKE KIND OF A DEMAGOGUE, NOT UNLIKE KIM JONG-UN. KIM JONG-UN. I’VE GOT THINGS UNDER CONTROL. I’VE GOT THINGS UNDER CONTROL. ANYTHING CONTRARY TO THAT IS A ANYTHING CONTRARY TO THAT IS A PROBLEM. PROBLEM. HOW WILL THAT MAST AFEST ITSELF, HOW WILL THAT MAST AFEST ITSELF, AS YOU SAY KIND OF BELOW THE AS YOU SAY KIND OF BELOW THE SURFACE ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY SURFACE ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY REALM AND WITH OUR ALLIES? REALM AND WITH OUR ALLIES? I WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK I WILL GIVE YOU A QUICK ANTIDOTE. ANTIDOTE. I BOUGHT A HOUSE ONE TIME IN A I BOUGHT A HOUSE ONE TIME IN A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I DID MY GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I DID MY HOMEWORK AND I NOTICED QUICKLY HOMEWORK AND I NOTICED QUICKLY AFTER I MOVED IN, NOBODY WAS AFTER I MOVED IN, NOBODY WAS LOCKING THEIR DOORS, PEOPLE WERE LOCKING THEIR DOORS, PEOPLE WERE LEAVING CARS UNLOCKED, FRONT LEAVING CARS UNLOCKED, FRONT DOORS, SCOOTERS, BIKES, MOPEDS DOORS, SCOOTERS, BIKES, MOPEDS ON THE LAWNS. ON THE LAWNS. WHEN I STARTED ASK PEOPLE WHY, WHEN I STARTED ASK PEOPLE WHY, THEY SAID WE DON’T HAVE A CRIME THEY SAID WE DON’T HAVE A CRIME PROBLEM HERE. PROBLEM HERE. EVERYTHING IS FINE HERE. EVERYTHING IS FINE HERE. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY SAFE THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY SAFE STREET. STREET. WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, THE BAD GUYS WHO HAD BEEN THE BAD GUYS WHO HAD BEEN ROBBING HOMES AND BREAKING INTO ROBBING HOMES AND BREAKING INTO CARS A FEW BLOCKS AWAY REALIZED CARS A FEW BLOCKS AWAY REALIZED THERE’S A STREET THAT NEVER THERE’S A STREET THAT NEVER LOCKS DOORS AND THEY TOOK LOCKS DOORS AND THEY TOOK ADVANTAGE AND THINGS STARTED ADVANTAGE AND THINGS STARTED DISAPPEARING OUT OF GARAGES AND DISAPPEARING OUT OF GARAGES AND CARS. CARS. WHAT’S MY POINT? WHAT’S MY POINT? OUR ADVERSARIES ARE LOOKING AT OUR ADVERSARIES ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND SAYING NO ONE’S LOCKING THIS AND SAYING NO ONE’S LOCKING THEIR DOORS AT THE UNITED THEIR DOORS AT THE UNITED STATES. STATES. THE PRESIDENT THINK THERE’S NO THE PRESIDENT THINK THERE’S NO PROBLEM. PROBLEM. HE’S PROJECTING THIS ILLUSION OF HE’S PROJECTING THIS ILLUSION OF NO PROBLEM. NO PROBLEM. NORTH KOREA IS A FRIEND. NORTH KOREA IS A FRIEND. RUSSIA IS A FRIEND. RUSSIA IS A FRIEND. ALL GOOD. ALL GOOD. SAUDI CROWN PRINCE DIDN’T KILL SAUDI CROWN PRINCE DIDN’T KILL ANYBODY. ANYBODY. WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU GET WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU GET EXPLOITED, AND THE TRUTH BITES EXPLOITED, AND THE TRUTH BITES YOU IN THE REAR END AND IT HURTS YOU IN THE REAR END AND IT HURTS BADLY. BADLY.>>DONNA EDWARDS, THERE IS A>>DONNA EDWARDS, THERE IS A TRUTH THAT HURTS PRETTY BADLY, TRUTH THAT HURTS PRETTY BADLY, I’M TOLD, WHEN THE PRESIDENT I’M TOLD, WHEN THE PRESIDENT FOCUSES ON IT. FOCUSES ON IT. THIS IS FROM PETER’S COLLEAGUE THIS IS FROM PETER’S COLLEAGUE MICHAEL CROWLEY, WHO WRITES IN MICHAEL CROWLEY, WHO WRITES IN TODAY’S “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” TODAY’S “THE NEW YORK TIMES,” PRESIDENT TRUMP HEADS INTO THE PRESIDENT TRUMP HEADS INTO THE CLOSING MONTHS OF THE YEAR CLOSING MONTHS OF THE YEAR BEFORE HE FACES RE-ELECTION BEFORE HE FACES RE-ELECTION WITHOUT A CLEAR POLICY AGENDA WITHOUT A CLEAR POLICY AGENDA AND WITH AN UPHILL PATH AT AND WITH AN UPHILL PATH AT ACHIEVING ANY MAJOR ACHIEVING ANY MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS BEFORE HE FACES ACCOMPLISHMENTS BEFORE HE FACES VOTERS. VOTERS. AS OFFICIAL WASHINGTON RETURNS AS OFFICIAL WASHINGTON RETURNS TO WORK, IT IS UNCLEAR IF MR. TO WORK, IT IS UNCLEAR IF MR. TRUMP TENDS TO FOCUS HIS TIME TRUMP TENDS TO FOCUS HIS TIME AND ATTENTION ON HIS POLICY AND ATTENTION ON HIS POLICY GOALS OR WHETHER HE WILL STEP GOALS OR WHETHER HE WILL STEP INTO A FULL BORE CAMPAIGN MODE, INTO A FULL BORE CAMPAIGN MODE, ESCALATING ATTACKS ON HIS ESCALATING ATTACKS ON HIS POLITICAL RIVALS PERFECT AND POLITICAL RIVALS PERFECT AND SPURNING TRADITIONAL GOVERNANCE. SPURNING TRADITIONAL GOVERNANCE. WHAT’S YOUR MONEY ON, DONNA? WHAT’S YOUR MONEY ON, DONNA?>>LOOK, I’M NOT SPENDING MY>>LOOK, I’M NOT SPENDING MY MONEY ON DONALD TRUMP. MONEY ON DONALD TRUMP. BUT IF THERE’S ANY INDICATION — BUT IF THERE’S ANY INDICATION — IF THIS WEEK IS ANY INDICATION IF THIS WEEK IS ANY INDICATION OF WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS OF WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS HEADED, HE’S GOING TO CONTINUE HEADED, HE’S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE IN THIS MUCK OF MADE-UP TO BE IN THIS MUCK OF MADE-UP STORIES THAT ARE THE RESULT OF STORIES THAT ARE THE RESULT OF HIS INCOMPETENCE OR HIS EGO OR HIS INCOMPETENCE OR HIS EGO OR HIS INCOHERENCE. HIS INCOHERENCE. SO I THINK THAT GOING IN TO — SO I THINK THAT GOING IN TO — AS CONGRESS COMES BACK INTO SESSION, THERE ARE REAL INTO SESSION, THERE ARE REAL TLIPGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE BUT TLIPGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE BUT THINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ON THINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ON THE PRESIDENT’S AGENDA LIKE THE PRESIDENT’S AGENDA LIKE LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUG COSTS, LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUG COSTS, REBUILDING THE NATION’S REBUILDING THE NATION’S INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE, ALL OF THOSE SINGS ARE SET ASIDE BECAUSE THE SINGS ARE SET ASIDE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ISN’T ABLE TO FOCUS PRESIDENT ISN’T ABLE TO FOCUS REALLY FOR 30 SECONDS ON REALLY FOR 30 SECONDS ON SOMETHING THAT’S REALLY SOMETHING THAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. PEOPLE. WHEN I LOOK AT THIS WITH WHEN I LOOK AT THIS WITH ALABAMA, WHAT I SEE IS THE ALABAMA, WHAT I SEE IS THE PRESIDENT WHO SOMETIMES LIES PRESIDENT WHO SOMETIMES LIES BECAUSE IT’S INCONVENIENT AND BECAUSE IT’S INCONVENIENT AND DOESN’T MATCH HIS TRUTH, BUT DOESN’T MATCH HIS TRUTH, BUT SOMETIMES THESE LIES ACTUALLY SOMETIMES THESE LIES ACTUALLY HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES. HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES. ALABAMA COULD HAVE — IF THEY ALABAMA COULD HAVE — IF THEY PAID ATTENTION TO THE PAID ATTENTION TO THE PRESIDENT — MIGHT HAVE STARTED PRESIDENT — MIGHT HAVE STARTED MOVING RESOURCES. MOVING RESOURCES. PEOPLE GET AFRAID, THEY’RE PEOPLE GET AFRAID, THEY’RE CALLING FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IN CALLING FRIENDS AND FAMILIES IN THE CAROLINAS AND ALONG THE THE CAROLINAS AND ALONG THE COAST TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE OKAY. COAST TO MAKE SURE THEY’RE OKAY. AND SO WE SHOULDN’T JUST DISMISS AND SO WE SHOULDN’T JUST DISMISS THESE THINGS AS THOUGH THEY’RE THESE THINGS AS THOUGH THEY’RE NOT IMPORTANT. NOT IMPORTANT. AND I WANT TO LAUGH AT THE AND I WANT TO LAUGH AT THE SHARPIE TOO BUT UNFORTUNATELY SHARPIE TOO BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THE TIME FOR THIS PRESIDENT AND TIME FOR THIS PRESIDENT AND LAUGHING IS REALLY OVER. LAUGHING IS REALLY OVER. AND I DON’T SEE HIM AND I DON’T SEE HIM ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING FROM NOW ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THIS NEXT PART UNTIL THE END OF THIS NEXT PART OF THE CONGRESSIONAL SESSION. OF THE CONGRESSIONAL SESSION.>>RICK?>>RICK?>>YES, THERE’S A LOT TO PROCESS>>YES, THERE’S A LOT TO PROCESS HERE. HERE. I HAVE TO SAY I AGREE WITH DONNA I HAVE TO SAY I AGREE WITH DONNA IN A SENSE THE SHARPIE-GATE IS IN A SENSE THE SHARPIE-GATE IS SORT OF COMICAL. SORT OF COMICAL. WHEN YOU TOLD THE LIZ SMITH WHEN YOU TOLD THE LIZ SMITH STORY, IT MADE ME THINK OF HARRY STORY, IT MADE ME THINK OF HARRY AND THE PURPLE CRAYON, THE AND THE PURPLE CRAYON, THE 4-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO CREATED HIS 4-YEAR-OLD BOY WHO CREATED HIS OWN REALITY WITH A PURPLE OWN REALITY WITH A PURPLE CRAYON. CRAYON. THAT’S ESSENTIALLY WHAT DONALD THAT’S ESSENTIALLY WHAT DONALD TRUMP DOES. TRUMP DOES. BUT FRANK WAS SAYING ALSO THIS BUT FRANK WAS SAYING ALSO THIS IDEA THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE IDEA THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ALL TOLD THE UNITED STATES ALL TOLD THE TRUTH, NOT BEHOLDEN TO THE TRUTH, NOT BEHOLDEN TO THE TRUTH, THAT GIVES PERMISSION TO TRUTH, THAT GIVES PERMISSION TO WORLD LEADERS ALL OVER THE WORLD LEADERS ALL OVER THE PLANET, EGALITARIANS DO NOT TELL PLANET, EGALITARIANS DO NOT TELL THE TRUTH. THE TRUTH. THE WAY THE PRESIDENT’S WORD IS THE WAY THE PRESIDENT’S WORD IS GOLD THAT WE USED TO PARSE EVERY GOLD THAT WE USED TO PARSE EVERY WORD IN A SENTENCE EVERY WORD IN A SENTENCE EVERY PRESIDENT USED TO SAY — PRESIDENT USED TO SAY –>>AND THEIR SPOKES PEOPLE.>>AND THEIR SPOKES PEOPLE.>>IT HELD PEOPLE TO A HIGHER>>IT HELD PEOPLE TO A HIGHER STANDARD. STANDARD. MY WHOLE BOOK ABOUT MY WHOLE BOOK ABOUT DISINFORMATION, DONALD TRUMP IS DISINFORMATION, DONALD TRUMP IS THE DISINFORMATIONIST IN CHIEF. THE DISINFORMATIONIST IN CHIEF. HE’S THE LEADING CAUSE OF HE’S THE LEADING CAUSE OF DISINFORMATION COMING FROM ONE DISINFORMATION COMING FROM ONE PERSON ON A GLOBAL STAGE. PERSON ON A GLOBAL STAGE. IT’S REALLY INCREDIBLE AND IT’S REALLY INCREDIBLE AND INFLUENCES EVERY PLACE DOWN AND INFLUENCES EVERY PLACE DOWN AND IT MAKES THE TRUTH SOMETHING IT MAKES THE TRUTH SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE QUESTION. THAT PEOPLE QUESTION. THE OTHER POINT ABOUT WHAT THE THE OTHER POINT ABOUT WHAT THE RUSSIANS DO IS NOT SO MUCH THEY RUSSIANS DO IS NOT SO MUCH THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY’RE WANT YOU TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY’RE SAYING, THEY WANT YOU TO SAYING, THEY WANT YOU TO DISBELIEVE EVERYBODY ELSE AND DISBELIEVE EVERYBODY ELSE AND THAT’S WHAT TRUMP DOES TOO. THAT’S WHAT TRUMP DOES TOO.>>WE’RE JOINED BY MY FRIEND AL>>WE’RE JOINED BY MY FRIEND AL ROKER. ROKER. I HAVE TO SAY, AL, YOU WERE ON I HAVE TO SAY, AL, YOU WERE ON THIS STORE BRINGING BECAUSE IT THIS STORE BRINGING BECAUSE IT STARTED AS A WEATHER STORY. STARTED AS A WEATHER STORY. THIS DID NOT START AS A TRUMP THIS DID NOT START AS A TRUMP STORY OR POLITICAL STORY, IT STORY OR POLITICAL STORY, IT STARTED AS SOMETHING THAT STARTED AS SOMETHING THAT ALARMED YOU BECAUSE IT WAS BAD ALARMED YOU BECAUSE IT WAS BAD INFORMATION ABOUT A STORM. INFORMATION ABOUT A STORM.>>YES, AND THAT WAS THE>>YES, AND THAT WAS THE PROBLEM. PROBLEM. I REMEMBER LOOKING AND SEEING A I REMEMBER LOOKING AND SEEING A PICTURE OF HIM BEING BRIEFED PICTURE OF HIM BEING BRIEFED WITH THE ACTUAL GRAPHIC IN THE WITH THE ACTUAL GRAPHIC IN THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE 29th. WHITE HOUSE ON THE 29th. IT WAS THERE. IT WAS THERE. AND THEN TO SEE THAT, IT WAS AND THEN TO SEE THAT, IT WAS LIKE WAIT. LIKE WAIT. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, LOOK, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, LOOK, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT WHAT HE DID OR DIDN’T DO, THE WHAT HE DID OR DIDN’T DO, THE FACT IS PEOPLE GO TO WHAT THEY FACT IS PEOPLE GO TO WHAT THEY CONSIDER THEIR TRUSTED SOURCES, CONSIDER THEIR TRUSTED SOURCES, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FROM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FROM ALABAMA SAID NO, THIS IS NOT A ALABAMA SAID NO, THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM. PROBLEM. SO THEY KNEW WHERE TO GO. SO THEY KNEW WHERE TO GO. I DON’T THINK PEOPLE MADE I DON’T THINK PEOPLE MADE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT THE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID. PRESIDENT SAID.>>AND LET’S HOPE JUST NOW HE>>AND LET’S HOPE JUST NOW HE HAS TWEETED FOR THE FIFTH TIME HAS TWEETED FOR THE FIFTH TIME TODAY, WE HAD HOPED TO MOVE ON TODAY, WE HAD HOPED TO MOVE ON TO COVER THE STORM AND WEATHER TO COVER THE STORM AND WEATHER TO COVER PEOPLE IN THE UNITED TO COVER PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES BUT HE HAS, SINCE WE’VE STATES BUT HE HAS, SINCE WE’VE BEEN ON THE AIR, TWEETED A FIFTH BEEN ON THE AIR, TWEETED A FIFTH TIME TODAY ABOUT ALABAMA. TIME TODAY ABOUT ALABAMA. SO HOW ABOUT SOME REAL NEWS? SO HOW ABOUT SOME REAL NEWS?>>HERE’S THE DEAL.>>HERE’S THE DEAL. AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING STORM AND THIS IS AN INTERESTING STORM IN THAT IT’S BEEN VERY SLOW IN THAT IT’S BEEN VERY SLOW MOVING AND IT’S GIVEN — THE MOVING AND IT’S GIVEN — THE GOOD NEWS IS IT’S GIVING PEOPLE GOOD NEWS IS IT’S GIVING PEOPLE TIME TO PREPARE. TIME TO PREPARE. UNFORTUNATELY FOR OUR FRIENDS IN UNFORTUNATELY FOR OUR FRIENDS IN THE BAHAMAS, THE THING SAT ON THE BAHAMAS, THE THING SAT ON TOP OF THEM 51 HOURS. TOP OF THEM 51 HOURS. BUT THIS IS STARTING TO PICK UP BUT THIS IS STARTING TO PICK UP SPEED. SPEED. IT’S A CATEGORY 2 STORM 55 MILES IT’S A CATEGORY 2 STORM 55 MILES SOUTHEAST OF MYRTLE BEACH, SOUTHEAST OF MYRTLE BEACH, STRONG A STRONG CATEGORY 2 STRONG A STRONG CATEGORY 2 MOVING NORTH-NORTHEAST AT 8. MOVING NORTH-NORTHEAST AT 8. WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT NICOLLE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT NICOLLE YESTERDAY, WORRIED ABOUT YESTERDAY, WORRIED ABOUT TORNADOES, WE HAVE TORNADO TORNADOES, WE HAVE TORNADO WATCHES AND TORNADO WARNINGS WATCHES AND TORNADO WARNINGS GOING ON NOT JUST ALONG THE GOING ON NOT JUST ALONG THE COAST BUT INLAND AS WELL. COAST BUT INLAND AS WELL. AS WE TOLD YOU, JUST BECAUSE YOU AS WE TOLD YOU, JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T LIVE ON THE COAST, DO NOT DON’T LIVE ON THE COAST, DO NOT THINK THAT YOU ARE OUT OF THE THINK THAT YOU ARE OUT OF THE WOODS BECAUSE THIS IS STILL A WOODS BECAUSE THIS IS STILL A POWERFUL STORM THAT IS GOING TO POWERFUL STORM THAT IS GOING TO BE AFFECTING THIS AREA FOR THE BE AFFECTING THIS AREA FOR THE NEXT 24 HOURS. NEXT 24 HOURS. HERE’S THE TRACK RIGHT NOW. HERE’S THE TRACK RIGHT NOW. IT TAKES IT ALONG THE COAST, MAY IT TAKES IT ALONG THE COAST, MAY HAVE A LANDFALL LATE TONIGHT, HAVE A LANDFALL LATE TONIGHT, EARLY TOMORROW ALONG WILMINGTON EARLY TOMORROW ALONG WILMINGTON AND THEN MAYBE MOORHEAD CITY AND THEN MAYBE MOORHEAD CITY POSSIBLY, CAPE HATTERAS BY POSSIBLY, CAPE HATTERAS BY FRIDAY MORNING. FRIDAY MORNING. STILL CATEGORY 2, STILL CATEGORY 2, 100-MILE-PER-HOUR WINDS. 100-MILE-PER-HOUR WINDS. THEN ROCKETS OFF, MOVES OFF THE THEN ROCKETS OFF, MOVES OFF THE COAST BY FRIDAY AND WE’RE STILL COAST BY FRIDAY AND WE’RE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT. TALKING ABOUT IT. THERE ARE TROPICAL STORM WATCHES THERE ARE TROPICAL STORM WATCHES FOR NEW ENGLAND. FOR NEW ENGLAND. SO WE COULD SEE SOME WET SO WE COULD SEE SOME WET WEATHER, SOME VERY HEAVY WINDS WEATHER, SOME VERY HEAVY WINDS AND STRONG STORM SURGE. AND STRONG STORM SURGE. IN FACT MYRTLE BEACH TODAY, WIND IN FACT MYRTLE BEACH TODAY, WIND GUSTS UP TO 85 MILES PER HOUR. GUSTS UP TO 85 MILES PER HOUR. WE’VE ALREADY SEEN SOME WE’VE ALREADY SEEN SOME SUSTAINED WIND GUSTS OF 100 SUSTAINED WIND GUSTS OF 100 MILES PER HOUR. MILES PER HOUR. A STORM SURGE FIVE TO EIGHT A STORM SURGE FIVE TO EIGHT FEET, RAINFALL 10 TO 15 INCHES. FEET, RAINFALL 10 TO 15 INCHES. THE STORM CONTINUES MAKING ITS THE STORM CONTINUES MAKING ITS WAY UP THE COAST AND THEN WAY UP THE COAST AND THEN WILMINGTON, TONIGHT AND INTO WILMINGTON, TONIGHT AND INTO TOMORROW MORNING, YOUR WINDS 60 TOMORROW MORNING, YOUR WINDS 60 TO 95 MILES PER HOUR. TO 95 MILES PER HOUR. STORM SURGE OF 47 FEET, RAINFALL STORM SURGE OF 47 FEET, RAINFALL 8 TO 12 INCHES AND THEN FROM 8 TO 12 INCHES AND THEN FROM CAPE HATTERAS EARLY FRIDAY CAPE HATTERAS EARLY FRIDAY MORNING, WE MAY SEE LANDFALL MORNING, WE MAY SEE LANDFALL THERE AND IT CONTINUES TO MAKE THERE AND IT CONTINUES TO MAKE ITS WAY TO THE NORTHEAST. ITS WAY TO THE NORTHEAST. LOOK AT THIS, LATE FRIDAY INTO LOOK AT THIS, LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY, LONG ISLAND, CAPE COD, SATURDAY, LONG ISLAND, CAPE COD, 35 TO 55-MILE-PER-HOUR WINDS, 35 TO 55-MILE-PER-HOUR WINDS, PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN AND MINOR PERIODS OF HEAVY RAIN AND MINOR COASTAL FLOODING. COASTAL FLOODING. BUT THE BIG DEAL STILL, NICOLLE, BUT THE BIG DEAL STILL, NICOLLE, IS STORM SURGE WHERE YOU HAVE IS STORM SURGE WHERE YOU HAVE THE PREPONDERANCE OF DEATHS AND THE PREPONDERANCE OF DEATHS AND TORNADOES TO WORRY ABOUT AS IT TORNADOES TO WORRY ABOUT AS IT MAKES ITS WAY UP THE COAST. MAKES ITS WAY UP THE COAST. THE DANGEROUS THING ABOUT THE THE DANGEROUS THING ABOUT THE TORNADOES IS THEY’RE TORNADOES IS THEY’RE RAIN-WRAPPED, IT WILL BE AT RAIN-WRAPPED, IT WILL BE AT NIGHT AND PEOPLE WILL NOT SEE NIGHT AND PEOPLE WILL NOT SEE THEM. THEM. THEY WILL SPIN UP VERY QUICKLY. THEY WILL SPIN UP VERY QUICKLY. IT IS A POWERFUL STORM AND THE IT IS A POWERFUL STORM AND THE PEOPLE STILL NEED TO PAY HEED TO PEOPLE STILL NEED TO PAY HEED TO THEIR LOCAL OFFICIALS. THEIR LOCAL OFFICIALS. THOSE FOLKS THAT THEY TRUST TO THOSE FOLKS THAT THEY TRUST TO GIVE THEM THE RIGHT INFORMATION, GIVE THEM THE RIGHT INFORMATION, AND THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT AND THEY NEED TO WORRY ABOUT COASTAL FLOODING AS WELL.