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CIA refutes CNN report that spy was pulled from Russia because of Trump


U.S. GOVERNMENT IS TRUSTWORTHY.>>Mike: THANKS FOR SORTING IT OUT. SO THERE’S PLENTY TO DISCUSS ON THE NATIONAL SECURITY AND ESPIONAGE FRONTS TONIGHT STARTING WITH THE CIA STORY. FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR DAN HOFFMAN SERVED IN MOSCOW AS STATION CHIEF. IT LETS ALSO BRING A FORMER CIA OPERATIONS OFFICER AND ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE MARY BETH LONG. GREAT TO HAVE YOU BOTH.>>THANKS, GREAT TO BE HERE.>>Mike: HONESTLY VERY SENSITIVE STORY,, WHAT ARE YOU ABLE TO SAY ABOUT THIS EXTRACTION STORY?>>I’LL TELL YOU, IT’S JUST DISTURBING ONE CIA CLANDESTINE OPERATIONS ARE RUN THROUGH A POLITICAL MEAT GRINDER. LIKE THEY’VE BEEN IN THIS CASE. WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME THE MOST OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE SOURCES WHO WERE REVEALING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO CNN. I DON’T KNOW HOW ANYONE COULD BE DOING THAT. VLADIMIR PUTIN DEALS VERY RUTHLESSLY WITH THOSE WHOM HE CALLS TRADERS. HE TRIED TO POISON WITH SOVIET STYLE NERVE AGENT AND KILL FORMER FSB OFFICER WITH POLONIUM 210. SO THIS GUY, IF THE STORY IS TRUE, HAS A BULL’S-EYE ON HIS HEAD. I DON’T KNOW HOW THOSE SOURCES COULD SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING THAT THEY’VE DONE THIS FOR APPARENTLY SOME POLITICAL PURPOSE.>>Mike: IT MARY BETH, “THE NEW YORK TIMES” MAKING IT PRETTY CLEAR THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. “FORMER INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL SAID THERE WAS NO PUBLIC EVIDENCE THAT MR. TRUMP DIRECTLY ENDANGERED THE SOURCE. IS IT TIME FOR CNN TO RETRACT AND APOLOGIZE FOR THE STORY?>>I THINK IT IS AND I THINK NOT ONLY HAS “THE NEW YORK TIMES” — THE CIA HAS BEEN UNEQUIVOCAL. THIS IS A FALSE NARRATIVE, THIS IS A FALSE STORY AND IT HAS DONE TREMENDOUS DAMAGE. I THINK CNN NOT ONLY OWES AN APOLOGY, BUT THEY REALLY OUGHT TO MAKE AMENDS. THEY HAVE PUT NOT ONLY THIS ASSET FOR THE SELECTED ASSET AT RISK, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WAS IN THIS POSITION NOW FEARS THAT THEY WILL BE OUTED BY SOME KIND OF PROCESS THAT CNN HAS INVENTED FOR THEIR OWN USE.>>Mike: WE SAW STRONG PUSHBACK FROM THE PEOPLE WHO DON’T TYPICALLY TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF VERY OFTEN FROM A FORMER CIA DIRECTOR AND THE CIA ITSELF. IS YOUR BIGGER CONCERN THE MEDIA, OR THE LEAKERS?>>FOR ME IT’S THE LEAKERS. AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE SOURCES BEHIND ENEMY LINES FOR STEALING SECRETS ON OUR BEHALF, AS MARYBETH NOTED, THEY HAVE TO BE WONDERING ABOUT WHETHER THEIR SECRETS WILL STAY SECRET. AND THAT DOES CAUSE, ENSURE THEM A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN AND IT COULD IMPACT OUR OPERATIONS ON WHICH WE RELY FOR CRITICAL INTELLIGENCE GOING FORWARD SO THAT’S REALLY THE CONCERN FOR M ME.>>Mike: BIG HIGH-PROFILE DEPARTURE, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR, IS THERE ANY SURPRISE ABOUT THIS DEPARTURE CONSIDERING HIS DIFFERING VIEWS FROM THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF?>>I DON’T THINK SO. I THINK FROM THE BEGINNING EVERYBODY KNEW THAT THE KEY ASPECT OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR IS TO HAVE TO HAVE CHEMISTRY WITH THE PRESIDENT AND JOHN NEVER REALLY HAD THAT. IT WAS VERY EVIDENT AS THINGS GOT ON, THE CHEMISTRY BECAME MORE AND MORE OF AN ISSUE, THE DIFFERENCES, THE GAPS BECAME WIDER. I THINK THE TIMING WAS SOMEWHAT OF A SURPRISE. UNFORTUNATELY THE NARRATIVE BETWEEN THE TWO GENTLEMEN, BUT IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON. WANT TO LOSE CONFIDENCE IN YOUR NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH WHOM YOU HAVE AN INSTANT RELATIONSHIP.>>Mike: YOUR THOUGHTS ON JOHN BOLTON’S DEPARTURE?>>I THINK IT DOES PROBABLY ELEVATE, IF THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE, SECRETARY POMPEO, WHOSE WILL HAVE THE GREATEST INFLUENCE AND I THINK IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE REST OF CONSUL NERI, NOT JUST ON FOREIGN POLICY BUT I THINK I’M ANY OTHER POLICIES DOMESTIC AS