Sep
07
Billionaire Dem Tom Steyer on his quest to oust Trump in 2020


>>Bret: PETER, THANK YOU. BILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMAN AND ACTIVIST WHO HAS SPENT BILLIONS OF HIS OWN MONEY. HE JOINS US TONIGHT LIVE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.>>BRETT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME.>>Bret: I WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THEN GET TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT. YOU, I ASSUME, THE PRIMARY CONCERN FOR YOU IS TO GET PRESIDENT TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE PER YOU’VE SPENT A LOT OF YOUR MONEY TO DO JUST THAT. BUT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE FIELD OF 20 PLUS DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES, WHAT DID YOU SAY? DID YOU SAY THAT THEY CAN’T WIN, SO I NEED TO GET INTO DO IT?>>MY REAL MOTIVATION HERE, BRET, IS THAT I WAS WORRIED THAT WE WOULDN’T DEAL WITH THE BASIC PROBLEMS IN FRONT OF AMERICANS AND WHEN IT BE TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO. THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR AMERICANS THAT I HAVE BEEN CALLING OUT, IS THAT WE’VE HAD A FAILURE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE’VE HAD A CORPORATE TAKEOVER OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT THEY’VE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THE GOVERNMENT AND THAT WE NEED TO RESTORE OUR DEMOCRACY TO GET BACK TO GOVERNMENT OF, BY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE, THAT PUTS THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FIRST, NOT THE PROFITS OF CORPORATIONS.>>Bret: I’M BETTER THAN THE 20 PLUS CANDIDATES STANDING THERE.>>Tom: WELL, I WAS WORRIED, BRET THAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT PLANS IN TERMS OF MEDICALC ABOUT PLANS IN TERMS OF MEDICALR ABOUT PLANS IN TERMS OF MEDICAL. WE’D BE TALKING ABOUT PLANS IN TERMS OF EDUCATION. WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE PLANS THAT YOU WERE JUST REFERENCING WITH REGARDS TO THE GREEN NEW DEAL. WE NEED TO LEVEL WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. FOR ANY OF THOSE PLANS TO BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED, WE HAVE TO BREAK THIS CORPORATE STRANGLEHOLD ON OUR DEMOCRACY. I THINK 4 OUT OF 5 AMERICANS, REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, AND INDEPENDENCE THINK THAT THIS DEMOCRACY HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY CORPORATIONS. IT GOES ACROSS PARTY ISSUES. IT GOES ACROSS GEOGRAPHY. THAT’S WHAT I THINK WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. CAN WE GET BACK A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WORKS? CAN WE RESTORE GOVERNMENT OFF, BUY, AND FOR THE PEOPLE? SEE WHEN YOU KNOW THAT CRITICS IN YOUR OWN PARTY, INCLUDING BERNIE SANDERS SAYS THAT THEY DON’T LIKE THE BILLIONAIRES ARE IN THIS RACE TRYING TO BUY THIS RACE. I WANT TO JUST ASK YOU ABOUT WHERE YOU STAND. YOU ARE NOT ON THE NEXT BASE IN HOUSTON. AND YOU ARE NOT INVITED TO THE TOWN HALL TONIGHT ON CLIMATE CHANGE, A KEY TOPIC FOR YOU. POLL’S HAS YOU ACT JUST 4%. WHY SHOULD THEY BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT?>>Tom: I’VE BEEN IN THIS RACE FOR SIX OR SEVEN WEEKS, BRETT. I’VE BEEN SPENDING MY TIME IN THE EARLY PRIMARY STATES. THAT’S NEW HAMPSHIRE, IOWA, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND NEVADA. IF YOU LOOK IN THOSE STATES, I’M SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SIX AND 7%, AND I’M EITHER IN FOURTH PLACE OR IN FIFTH PLACE. MY POINT TO YOU IS, MY MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO BREAK THIS CORPORATE STRANGLEHOLD, AND THAT I’M SOMEONE WHO’S BEEN DOING THAT AS AN OUTSIDER IN POLITICS FOR TEN YEARS, PUTTING TOGETHER COALITIONS OF NORMAL ORDINARY AMERICAN CITIZENS TO BREAK THE CORPORATE STRANGLEHOLD AND WINNING, IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY IS RESONATING IN PLACES WHERE MY MESSAGES GOING OUT. THAT PEOPLE DO HEAR IT AND THEY ARE RESPONDING POSITIVELY, AND I EXPECT THEY’LL CONTINUE TO.>>Bret: IT IS A BIG ISSUE FOR YOU. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU’VE TALKED ABOUT IS GETTING BACK INTO THE ACCORD. IS THAT RIGHT?>>Tom: WELL, ACTUALLY, BRET, OF COURSE I WOULD GET BACK INTO THE PARIS ACCORD. BUT I VIEW THAT AS AN IMPORTANT SYMBOLIC GESTURE, BUT NOT ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT’S GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD DOES OR WHAT AMERICA DOES. WHAT I’VE SAID, MUCH BEYOND GETTING BACK INTO THE PARIS ACCORD, IS THAT I WOULD DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY ON DAY ONE, AND I WOULD USE THE EMERGENCY POWERS OF THE PRESIDENCY TO START US TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, TO MAKE IT PRIORITY ONE, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF EVERY AMERICAN ON DAY ONE, AS COMMANDER AND CHIEF.>>Bret: YET. I MEAN, I YOU CRITICIZED THE PRESIDENT FOR PULLING OUT OF THE PARIS ACCORD, AND OTHER DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE THE SAME THING. WHAT YOU SAY TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID THAT THAT WAS JUST NOT A GOOD DEAL TO BEGIN WITH? ONE OF THEM IS OUR FORMER COLLEAGUE HERE, CHARLES, WHO HAD ON THE PANEL WHEN ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING. TAKE A LISTEN.>>RIGHT NOW, IT MAKES NO SENSE. IT HAS NO ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. IT’S ALL VOLUNTARY. SELF-IMPOSED. THAT’S THE PROBLEM WITH IT. THE CHINESE ESSENTIALLY HAVE A CLEAR EYE FOR 15 YEARS. THE INDIANS HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT THEY’RE GOING TO INCREASE SEE OH TWO EMISSIONS. WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO HAVE TO REVIEW THIS.>>Bret: AFTER THAT, PRESIDENT TRUMP POINTED OUT THAT THE U.S. IS ACTUALLY REDUCING EMISSIONS MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.>>Tom: LET ME SAY THIS. THE PARIS ACCORD IS BY NO MEANS PERFECT. BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO PUSH — THIS IS A GLOBAL PROBLEM, BRET, AND YOU KNOW IT. WE ALL KNOW IT’S A GLOBAL PROBLEM. IF WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE IT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SOLVE IT ON A GLOBAL BASIS. THAT MEANS TWO THINGS. IT MEANS AMERICA HAS TO GO BACK TO BEING THE MORAL LEADER OF THE WORLD, MORAL, TECHNOLOGICAL, COMMERCIAL LEADER OF THE WORLD, WHICH IS WHAT WE’VE BEEN FOR MORE THAN A CENTURY. AND SECONDLY, FOR US TO DO THAT, FOR US TO GO TO INDIA AND GO TO CHINA AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TOGETHER. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE OUR HOUSE IN ORDER. I CAN TELL YOU THIS AS A BUSINESSMAN. I’VE STUDIED THIS FOR OVER A DECADE. WE CAN DO THIS IN A WAY THAT WILL HAVE LOWER COST OF ENERGY, WE WILL GROW FASTER AS A COUNTR COUNTRY. PEOPLE WILL HAVE HIGHER WAGES AND BE HEALTHIER. THIS WHOLE ARGUMENT THAT THIS IS GOING TO SOMEHOW BE A DRAG ON THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IS COMPLETELY FALSE. IN TRUTH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN RESTORE US AS A COUNTRY AND MAKE US RICHER AND MAKE US HEALTHIER. TO BE 11 OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ARE PUSHING FOR AND HAS SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON IS AN IMPEACHMENT EFFORT. YOU SEE THAT IT HAS INCREASED. DO YOU STILL LEAVE THAT THIS PRESIDENT SHOULD BE IMPEACHED?>>Tom: YOU KNOW, BRET. I REALLY DO. I THINK HE’S THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. I THINK HE’S MORE THAN MET THE CRITERIA FOR IMPEACHMENT, AND I THINK HE THREATENS THE SAFETY OF AMERICANS, BUT MORE THAN THAT, HE THREATENS THE WHOLE IDEA OF RULE OF LAW. THE PRESIDENT CAN’T BE ABOVE THE LAW IF WE ARE TO BE A NATION OF LAWS. SO DO I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD STAND UP ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR WAY OF LIFE? OF COURSE I DO. THAT’S NEVER CHANGED. I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THAT WHAT WE WERE STANDING FOR WAS THE RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN TO BE JUDGED FAIRLY, FOR NOBODY TO BE